Good Day,

I am in the process of upgrading my computer. I want to know which of the following cpu's would be best for overclocking and why:

Athlon 2500+ or the Athlon 2700.

For example, the Barton 2500+ has a lower fsb due to the larger L2 cache size being 512 versus the 256 cache of the 2700. Would there be a better overclocking of the 2500+ since it starts with lower fsb of 1.8ghz?

Or would the larger cache of the 2500+ prove to be a hindrance when overclocking?

Which chip wwould YOU use and why...2500+ or 2700 ?

Of course, I am assuming that both of these 2 chips are UNLOCKED since they are post athlon 1700 chips, correct?

Respectfully,
Jasper

Yes both chips are unlocked on NF2 & Via kt4xxx & 600 chipsets.

I say get the Barton. The higher end Tbreds are not really good overclockers at all. The most you might get out it with air might be 2500Mhz.

Both the 2500+ & 2700+ have the same default FSB of 166.

Earlier steppings of the 2500 were not very good clockers at all. But now they look like they're a sure replacement for these 1700+ rockets.

I currently have my barton at 230 x 10.5.

If you want a Tbred then get a DLT3C 1700+ or 1800+.

when you say post 1700 are unlocked do you mean tbreds or on certain chipsets cuz i use a 1900 palamino and its not unlocked

How about a picture of a rare 2900+. Only a few of these ever hit the market.

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Thoroughbreds.

And, if you are wanting to oc ....... Thoroughbred B cores.

I would only spend my cash on three chips right now:

XP1700+ JIUHB DLT3C
Barton 2500
P4 2.4 C

Highly overclockable price point leaders!

Edit:

By the way, an overclocked 1700+ JIUHB DLT3C is what BA just showed you above.



Edit 2:

Damn you Zennzzo ..... I meant "C".

Playa,
Yes he is refering to theT-breds and the nForce ll, Via Kt-400 &Kt-600 chipsets
They usually have all the multipliers available.
BA- that is as rare as free brews at camp Zennzzo's
Putwig I agree, ...can the "b" do what the "c" can do?
oopps left out a little something important..my bad
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Not with Palomino procs Zennzzo. They are locked.

Easy to unlock ...... but locked none the less.

Good mop-up Putwig, my bad, I fixed it.

Quote: Originally posted by ZENNZZO Putwig I agree, ...can the "b" do what the "c" can do?

Are you talking about the P4 B vs C?

Thank You ALL for your replies...

PUTWIG: Ref your comment;

"I would only spend my cash on three chips right now:
XP1700+ JIUHB DLT3C
Barton 2500
P4 2.4 C"

Does an XP1700 overclock to a TOTAL higher Ghz value than the Barton2500? I want the highest TOTAL (sum) overclock, not the widest RANGE in overclock.

Also, your comment:

"Not with Palomino procs Zennzzo. They are locked.
Easy to unlock ...... but locked none the less."

I have an Athlon 2400 which I belive to be a Palomino, which came unlocked. It is currently overclocked. If you explain HOW to insert a .bmp in this forum...I will.
What if it wasn't unlocked...how would one go about "unlocking" it? Connect the "L" bridges?

"By the way, an overclocked 1700+ JIUHB DLT3C is what BA just showed you above."

Are you telling me that this 2900 is an overclocked 1700? What is the cooling apparatus? Is this better overclocking than a Barton2500 would yield? This is a Thoroughbred B Core I take it...how do I identify these cores when I go shopping?

"And, if you are wanting to oc ....... Thoroughbred B cores."


DRISLER:
Ref your comment;

"If you want a Tbred then get a DLT3C 1700+ or 1800+."

Do these overclock to a total HIGHER value than an Athlon2500 would?

Jasper

Yea they do in terms of Mhz.
Go here and search for 1700+ Tbreds.
You'll see the highest overclock as 4712Mhz. That is just not true. (A 3.2Ghz Overclock..no way). But if you go down the list you'll see what i mean.

You can check the Barton 2500+ Overclock stats as well.

I ran mine solid at 2505Mhz, that's not bad for a little over $50.

hey man i got a barton and really like it and asked the same thing a while ago but here is my suggestion if you are wanting to overclock go with the 1700 as these guys are saying it overclocks well.if i had to do it all over again i would go cheap (1700) play around with tat then when the price drops later go for the 2500 barton.i got mine on sale for a little over 90 bucks at newegg.i still have yet to go over the 2 ghz mark with it but she is stil running fine.

Quote: Originally posted by Jazzyjazz Does an XP1700 overclock to a TOTAL higher Ghz value than the Barton2500? I want the highest TOTAL (sum) overclock, not the widest RANGE in overclock.

I would say that the 1700+ would have the potential to acheive top speeds above the max oc with the Barton. The Barton has the advantage of 512 L2 cache. Both good chips.

Keep in mind that this is all just prediction, and noone can gaurantee you results. Also, we are getting these speeds with high end mobo's and quality ram. You can't just toss together a machine with one of these chips and get an 800 MHz oc.

Quote: Originally posted by Jazzyjazz I have an Athlon 2400 which I belive to be a Palomino

To the best of my knowledge the Palomino's only went to 2100+, your 2400+ is likely a Thoroughbred B core.

Quote: Originally posted by Jazzyjazz Are you telling me that this 2900 is an overclocked 1700?

Yes, that is what I am telling you. The 1700+ JIUHB is legendary. People are routinely getting it up to 2300 MHz on air cooling. Mine at the moment is running 2070 MHz with a Thermalright SK7 HSF, I am limited by my mobo ...... not the proc.

Quote: Originally posted by Jazzyjazz This is a Thoroughbred B Core I take it...how do I identify these cores when I go shopping?

More specifically the Thoroughbred B 1700+ with the JIUHB DLT3C stepping. Ask for it by name:

http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Merc...gory_Code=0920

There are many vendors that will gaurantee the stepping ...... but these cores are getting harder to find!

Damn Putwig, nice post.

Thanx Brother!

I got my 2500 to 2200 on air. I'm not runing it now because of crap ram, but it'll do it...

Using a program called AMD Tool I saw this interesting tidbit when looking at the stepping:

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Can you post that tool, good sir?

Where did you get the Program AMD Tool BA?