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Old 22-February-05, 05:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I want to buy a new CPU for my rig. I almost got 1 on ebay but the seller wrote to me in a PM that there could be issues cause i got an Epox 8rda3 and mobile bartons dont seem to like epox motherboards.

I was really suprised and cancelled my bid.

Now I'm asking you... Do you know ANYTHING about any problems with epox boards and mobile bartons??? Was the seller right or not?
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Old 22-February-05, 05:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nope should not have 1 single problem man.. Its a Nforce ll thats all i need to say.. If you are buying a mobile go with the 2600M its the best one Ive had mine a 227x12.5 on air cooling... Right now im running it stable at 227x11.5 1.875Vcore..


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Old 22-February-05, 05:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In a word...no.

EPox boards are right next to the Abit NF7-S V2.0 when it comes to overclocking and performance. A recently banned member gained a large scale FSB on the mobile barton (i think it was the 2500M).



N-force2s have no problem working with Mobile bartons, and why Epox boards would be especially vunerable to incompatibility is beyond me. A simple case of flashing the bios with the latest update would certainly rule out any configuration problems.

See what he says...and ask if theres another more valid reason
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Old 22-February-05, 05:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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From what i have read and heard myself it goes right along with what Nev and MaTtsPc said . I have a epox 8rda rev. 1 and love the thing wish i could have afforded a later model but i couldnt. If you are rethinking about boards either stick with that epox or go with a nfs, Personaly i would look into the nfs a little more they are getting to be about the same price and the layout is a little better. In way of where the cables run and ide connections. If you are going to a small case its gets pretty tight with that epox . I have a plextor cd burner that i can only put in my top slot because it comes close to hitting the ram and board if i dont.
Good luck man hope you get what you want.
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Old 22-February-05, 06:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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He he he I just want to say that I'm no OC noob... Look at my rig : (maybe not imresive but the brand of most parts says a lot about the owners knowledge).

AXP1700+ JIUHB DUT3C @2400+ 1.65 @ 1.675V LOL
Zalman 7000A-Cu
Hercules 3D Prophet R9500PRO + Modded silent cooling @370/620- crappy DDR
512 MB 400MHz TwinMos
EPOX 8RDA3 rev 2.0
Barracuda 7200.7 40GB
DVD-RW LiteON SOHW 832S
Tagan UD380-01|

Ok i have another problem... Currently my PC is working on 11.5*166= 1.9GHz Prime stable. I tried to change to FSB to 9*200=1.8GHz and my PC wont wven boot!! WTF? 100MHz less an instant boot crash.

Ok i raised vcore... no boot.
Raised Vdd sill wont boot..
Changed timings from turbo @ 166 MHz to optimal @200Mz (and by SPD)... no boot!!

Ok, i switched the DDR to asynchro (166MHz) and the FSB to 200MHz + cpu at mere 1.6GHz = boot and prime stable.

I thought... "Oh the memory is a pile of ****" kept it asynchro (DDR stil at 166MHz) and switched CPU to 9*200= 1,8GHZ and... NO BOOT!! Wtf? Cpu 100MHz less than on FSB 166 with 1.7 Vcore, memory asynchro and no friggin boot!!!

Lol Im out of any ideas... Any help? That barton M will be useless unless i make my rig 200MHz synchro prime stable :/.

Or maybe just my CPU doesnt like hi FSB and that Barton M will go stable with FSB 200MHz?

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Old 22-February-05, 06:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Dude look at my above post and look at my Sig.. You might not be a Noob but I launred from the best! ZENNZ




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Old 22-February-05, 06:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah but my budget i 1/4 of yours... im a STUDENT and bought all this with MY OWN money that i earned BY MYSELF.

Can anyone help me with my PC.
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Old 22-February-05, 06:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The board wont boot with that low of a multi if I am not mistaken. Try 11, 10.5, or 10
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Old 22-February-05, 07:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i have that motherboard, and i have a AMD2500+ and she runs like a charm, too bad my CPU is locked!

i haven't heard anything bad about it

AMD 2500+ @ 1.8 ghz 166X11
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Old 23-February-05, 05:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The board wont boot with that low of a multi if I am not mistaken. Try 11, 10.5, or 10

The only motherboards/CPUs that I know of that are bootable under 10 multi are the A64s...my KT600 (bless its obsolete cotton socks) doesnt do 9x either....only 10-11.5 in 5MHz intervals...then it crashes
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Old 23-February-05, 06:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Heh, maybe you're right but... I said that when I zet the multi to 8*200=1.6GHz and switched the memory to asynchro the PC was prime stable. I left the DDR asynchro @ 166 MHz and switched to 9*200=1.8GHz nad it crashed (when it booted prime crashed the system). Thats odd cause the CPU was prime stable with 1.9GHz and FSB 166 and the mdm was at mere 166MHz.

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Old 23-February-05, 06:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Might I suggest you try starting form scratch on the BIOS settings? Reset it and work up step by step. If there is a problem, you will most likely cancel it out from resetting, also saves you from having to try setting it up after an unstable clock.

BTW - out of curiosity, what are your memory timings like?
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Old 23-February-05, 06:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The memory timings are:
@166MHz synchro the PC is prime stable with Turbo settings (2 3 3 6)
@200MHz synchro the pc isnt stable even with "by spd" (that's 2.5 4 4 8)

Tried even 3 5 5 11 and it didnt help. The default Vdimm is 2.77... i ill try 2.9V.

There is a problem with high fsb... the highest taht i pushed my CPU is 12.5*166=2075MHz
and @ 1.85V my rig was prime-stable.

And now I dont know what to do.... buy that Barton M and pray that the PC will be stable at 11*200 (or 12*200 ) or there is no chance of getting it stable and I have to fight with my rig until i make it stable with my DUT3C @ 200MHz FSB?
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Old 23-February-05, 06:38 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Yea it looks like maybe your memory cant handle the high fsb. The higher fsb will out perform the higher multi with lower fsb. If you memory can hanel it try these.

11 X 188
10 X 200
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Old 23-February-05, 06:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Eeee... The memory is 400MHz so if it cant handle 400MHz FSB than i will return it to the store for testing...

Raised vdimm to 2.9V and no stability... The pc crashed with 8.5*200=1700 @ 1.65 and now I am working with 11.5*166=1900MHz @ 1.65V... stable as a rock LOL.

Damn... ill be forced 2 stay with my JIUHB DUT3C... no 2500MHz with a Barton M .
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Old 23-February-05, 07:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Im pretty sure that your mobo will not handle the multi. Try what i said before 10x190 or 11x180. If these work just keep upping the fsb speed by 1 mhz till you find the sweet spot. Once it crashes lower the fsb till its stable.
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Old 23-February-05, 07:41 AM   #17 (permalink)
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OK thx... ill try that.
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Old 23-February-05, 09:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
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orion with my board i never had any luck with setting it on turbo ,agressive timings ect,try just playing around with the fsb and multi and everything set stock. I just woke up so sorry if if you allready did that and i didnt se it in prev. replies.
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Old 23-February-05, 10:18 AM   #19 (permalink)
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just wondering how long ago did you purchase the moblie?? there might be a chance that you got a locked CPU which is why you are having a hard time with it, and that explains why it locks up and won't boot!

man i wish necro was in here to help ya! he really knows his OC'ing and stuff!
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Old 23-February-05, 11:07 AM   #20 (permalink)
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My current CPU is an AXP 1700+ JIUHB DUT3C... one of the best series ever (except the DLT3C).
Its UNLOCKED.

Ok i tried and the highest stable FSB was na crappy 181MHz.. the multi was at 10.5 zo i had 1.9GHz on core prime stable... huh I had the same on 11.5*166.

When i set 10*190 =1.9GHz the PC booted but prime crashed in 2 minutes.
When i set 10*185 = 1.85HGz the PC boted but prime crashed in 10 min.
when i set 10.5*181=1.9HGz the PC booted and was 1h prime stable.

Any ideas? Nf2 ultra 400 mobo, 400MHz DDR, excellent CPU, good cooling, powerfull PSU and crashes above 180FSB :/.
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