OK im thinking about upgrading to Athlon 64 socket 754.. Can anyone give any feed back on what would be the best for O/C ... Like Chip? Board witch i think the DFI NF3 250Gb won that.. and CPU cooler?




Thanks pimps!


Matt

I was under the impression AMD was phasing out the 754 in favor of the 939. And if they're not, what the hell is the difference between the two? I've always wondered.

One has more pins.......

That's so amazingly helpful....

Quote: Originally Posted by KraftMayo That's so amazingly helpful....

I typed "amd 754 939 differeance" into google and got a bunch of crap - I really dont care to read it as I dont want either but your welcome to try it yourself. Im quite sure it will answer your question.

AHHHH ???? Can anyone really help me out! lol





Matt

Seriously, they're phasing out the 754 in favor of the 939. If you do anything, go with the newer technology. Plus, you get the dual channel memory boost.

Im with salad dressing man here - no since starting out with outdated shat man. I doubt there is little to no price difference. If there is however you gotta go with what your budget is..........

Spike pretty much summed it up. The primary difference between the 754 and the 939 is that the 939 supports dual channel memory, whereas the 754 only supports single channel.

The 754 is currently being phased out and the smart move, if you can afford it, is to jump the 754 track and move straight to the 939 setup. With the dual channel support and the new PCI-Ex video cards starting to pick up steam, the smart way to go (albit more a bit more expensive) is to jump on to the 939 bandwagon.

As far as cooling goes, there are many different choice to choose from. I personally like the Koolance watercooling, but many here prefer the do-it-yourself way (which can look great and cool a lot better than a pre-mod set). Either way, you're going to need good cooling if you want to OC these bad boys. Standard stock cooling just isn't going to cut it past the first 200Mhz or so. I'm sure there are plenty of people here that can offer outstanding cooling suggestions.

Quote: Originally Posted by ariesjj Spike pretty much summed it up. The primary difference between the 754 and the 939 is that the 939 supports dual channel memory, whereas the 754 only supports single channel. The 754 is currently being phased out and the smart move, if you can afford it, is to jump the 754 track and move straight to the 939 setup. With the dual channel support and the new PCI-Ex video cards starting to pick up steam, the smart way to go (albit more a bit more expensive) is to jump on to the 939 bandwagon. As far as cooling goes, there are many different choice to choose from. I personally like the Koolance watercooling, but many here prefer the do-it-yourself way (which can look great and cool a lot better than a pre-mod set). Either way, you're going to need good cooling if you want to OC these bad boys. Standard stock cooling just isn't going to cut it past the first 200Mhz or so. I'm sure there are plenty of people here that can offer outstanding cooling suggestions.

Stock cooling will overclock at 90 nm core CPU well past 200 and run fine. 90 nm cores run on average 6C cooler at the same speeds as the older chips. I had my 3000+ runing over 2.8 gigs and it was loading at 40C with air. (grant you is WAS NOT STOCK COOLING, but it was only a Zalman 7000B)

Koolance is ok , but if you go water cooling Danger Den is the best hands down. But if you really want to overclock but don't got the money a Zalman 7700B or a TT XP-90 with a raptor will overclock just fine. (as good was water cooling for me)

If you got the extra cash, Phase is still the king, but cascade is even better than that.

Much as you and me talk on aim Matt just ask me some question from there.

What are you realy after Matt?

The extra pins for socket 939 are for Dual Channel Memory BTW, at same clock speeds you will see a 10-15% gain depending on the program, some won't benefit at all that aren't memory bandwitdth dependent like Folding@Home

Overclocking on a budget? Can't beat the 754 DFI LP or for a real cheap OC board, the Chantech with the NF-3 250 Chipset is only 75$

If you just dropped major coin on a AGP vid card this upgrade path makes sense. The new NFORCE 4 will require a PCI Express vid card.

The 939 is a better bet for long term, the DFI LP has been known to reach 350+FSB (DDR 700)

It will also take a Dual Core CPU when they come out in the next few months, if you decide to go racin with the big dogs...

I just recieved my SLI (DUAL Video cards!) NForce 4 DFI Lan Party, was around 180$, the single video card version is around 140$

In real world performance though, the 754 is a screamer, you will pay about 10-15% more for 939, and get about the same increase in performance, minus the fact you need a PCI express vid card.

Here is my new 939 SLI LP next to my OLD SKEWL Antique Athlon XP/ Mobile 2500+ (260x10=2.6ghz 530DDR) LP board, that will be bumped down to server/folding duty, I use the socket 754 LP with a 3200+ for my gaming rig, I had the Sempron 3100+ and Crucial ballistix in her and ran up to 300+FSB (DDR 600)



Goals for my new 939 Lan Party are 350x10 for 3.5 GHZ at DDR700 Speeds, using the Athlon FX-55 and a custom built ZenzoVap©

See what I was saying Matt? I've only been here a few days now, but Spike and Necro know more about OC'n and cooling than many people I know that have been doing it for years.

Also, thanks for the info on cooling next gen processors, Spike. The only reason I threw in the Koolance is because my modding skills are relatively weak (but are getting better each day). In the meanwhile... I'll stick with something built by the pros (I know... I know... I can build something better than they could imagine), but until I trust my skills a bit more... well.. you know the rest.

I see someone that likes doing their homework!!!